1
00:00:05,460 --> 00:00:16,250
TEEN PATHWAYS

2
00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,820
Wow! It is beautiful here.
It's just so beautiful here.

3
00:00:20,860 --> 00:00:22,630
Are you guys having fun?

4
00:00:22,660 --> 00:00:23,570
Yeah.

5
00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,270
I love to camp, I forget how
much I like to be out here.

6
00:00:27,300 --> 00:00:31,070
I was looking around and this
is going to sound strange,

7
00:00:31,110 --> 00:00:34,850
but I was looking around and I
felt like, do you know, when

8
00:00:34,890 --> 00:00:38,770
they talk about Scripturely,
that even the trees witness

9
00:00:38,810 --> 00:00:41,650
to us, that when you look at
the water running, and today

10
00:00:41,690 --> 00:00:45,150
I'm walking around have that
sense, that really powerful sense

11
00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:48,570
of God's presence and the
witnessing of the environment,

12
00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,290
and so I thought about a story,
the Biblical story and I don't

13
00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,980
know where it says, but
the Biblical story about the

14
00:00:58,010 --> 00:00:59,600
demoniac, the guy that was
demonpossessed?

15
00:00:59,630 --> 00:01:00,970
Do you know that story?

16
00:01:01,010 --> 00:01:02,930
Do you know which one?

17
00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,850
Yes, I will read it.

18
00:01:04,890 --> 00:01:05,870
Great!

19
00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,510
It's Mark 5, it's where it says,
it says:

20
00:01:15,550 --> 00:01:21,330
"They went across the lake to
the region of Gerasenes,

21
00:01:21,370 --> 00:01:27,490
When Jesus got out of the boat,
a man with an evil spirit came

22
00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:30,710
from the tombs to meet Him.
This man lived in the tombs

23
00:01:30,740 --> 00:01:35,060
and no one could bind him
anymore, not even with a chain,

24
00:01:35,090 --> 00:01:39,340
for he had often been chained
hand and foot, but tore the

25
00:01:39,380 --> 00:01:42,920
chains apart and broke the irons
on his feet. No one was strong

26
00:01:42,950 --> 00:01:46,460
enough to subdue him. Night and
day among the tombs and in the

27
00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:48,970
hills he would cry out and cut
himself with stones.

28
00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,540
When he saw Jesus from a
distance, he ran and fell on his

29
00:01:52,570 --> 00:01:55,950
knees in front of Him. He
shouted at the top of his voice:

30
00:01:55,990 --> 00:01:59,620
What do You want with me, Jesus,
Son of the most high God,

31
00:01:59,650 --> 00:02:03,240
swear to God that You won't
torture me, for Jesus had said

32
00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:07,130
to him: come out of this man,
you evil spirit, then Jesus

33
00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,140
asked him: what is your name?
My name is legion, he replied,

34
00:02:11,170 --> 00:02:14,830
for we are many. And he begged
Jesus again and again, not to

35
00:02:14,870 --> 00:02:18,490
send them out of the area.
A large herd of pigs was feeding

36
00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:21,700
on the nearby hillside. The
demons begged Jesus:

37
00:02:21,740 --> 00:02:24,840
send us among the pigs, allow us
to go into them.

38
00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,750
He gave them permission and the
evil spirits came out and went

39
00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:32,530
into the pigs. The herd
rushed down the steep bank

40
00:02:32,570 --> 00:02:36,330
into the lake and were drowned.
Those tending the pigs, ran off

41
00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,890
and reported this in the town
and the countryside.

42
00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:41,380
And the people went out to see
what had happened.

43
00:02:41,420 --> 00:02:44,400
When they came to Jesus, they
saw the man who had been

44
00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,350
possessed by the legion of
demons, sitting there, dressed

45
00:02:47,390 --> 00:02:53,250
and in his right mind. They were
afraid. Those who had seen it,

46
00:02:53,290 --> 00:02:55,040
told the people what had
happened to the demonpossessed

47
00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,840
man, and told about the pigs,
as well. Then the people began

48
00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,270
to plead with Jesus to leave
their region. As Jesus was

49
00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:05,220
getting into the boat, the man
who had been demon possessed,

50
00:03:05,260 --> 00:03:08,010
begged to go with Him. Jesus did
not let him, but said:

51
00:03:08,050 --> 00:03:11,940
go home to your family and tell
them how much the Lord has done

52
00:03:11,970 --> 00:03:15,830
for you and how He has had mercy
on you. So the man went away

53
00:03:15,860 --> 00:03:22,010
and begged to tell in the
Decapolis,

54
00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:26,650
how much Jesus had done for him,
and all the people were amazed."

55
00:03:26,690 --> 00:03:31,350
What I thought about, when I
thought about that story today,

56
00:03:31,390 --> 00:03:36,220
here's this guy that is out of,
he's like enchained in a cemetary

57
00:03:36,250 --> 00:03:41,290
environment, he's out of control
and he's cutting himself with

58
00:03:41,330 --> 00:03:45,080
stones, I was excited, so I've
seeen people that are

59
00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,390
selfmutilating and so the story,
you know I've seen people like

60
00:03:49,420 --> 00:03:53,630
that, that is so out to launch,
and then, I've been like that,

61
00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:58,000
in fact, you know I've seen that,
it's when I think about that

62
00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,420
story, I thought about this
guy and I thought about Jesus

63
00:04:00,460 --> 00:04:03,660
coming up, everybody else ran,
I mean all the disciples ran

64
00:04:03,690 --> 00:04:06,860
and this guy's looking at Jesus
and is saying, there is that

65
00:04:06,890 --> 00:04:09,490
sense of knowing, the demons
knew that He was God,

66
00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,300
for God healed him, Jesus healed
him, got him in his right

67
00:04:13,330 --> 00:04:17,070
mind, set next to him and his
right mind for the first time

68
00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:20,040
in his life and then He said:
ok, I've got to go now,

69
00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,950
and the guy begged Him:
please, please let me go with

70
00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:27,630
You, and then He said: no, no,
no, go tell them, go tell them

71
00:04:27,660 --> 00:04:30,480
what I did, and I thought: what
an unlikely witness!

72
00:04:30,510 --> 00:04:35,400
What an unlikely witness that
this guy that the whole town

73
00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:40,280
was afraid of, is healed and
sitting next to God and telling

74
00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,940
people that there is hope.
And then I, you're not going

75
00:04:42,970 --> 00:04:45,520
to believe this next thing,
then I thought about us.

76
00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,690
You know, I just thought about
us and we are such an incredible

77
00:04:49,730 --> 00:04:52,650
unlikely witness. Does that
make sense?

78
00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,680
I certainly understand what
you're saying because I felt

79
00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,680
like God did that with me, you
know, it was like, I was like

80
00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,510
demoniac or something, but I
wasn't possessed by satan.

81
00:05:04,550 --> 00:05:08,180
Well, satan had a hold of me
in life, but it wasn't, you know

82
00:05:08,220 --> 00:05:12,250
that way, I wasn't cutting
myself and stuff, but I was in

83
00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:15,740
in the drugs and stuff, but He
took me out of that and I was

84
00:05:15,770 --> 00:05:18,750
like Lord, I want to go with
You, I want to be in heaven

85
00:05:18,790 --> 00:05:22,220
with You, but He's like: no,
stay here in this earth and

86
00:05:22,260 --> 00:05:25,660
witness to people, you know,
show My love to other people

87
00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:29,360
and just help them.

88
00:05:29,390 --> 00:05:31,950
And you do witness, because
I've seen you, I've seen you

89
00:05:31,980 --> 00:05:34,900
witness to people and I think,
I know your background,

90
00:05:34,940 --> 00:05:38,410
it's hard for me sometimes,
when I hear you talking to,

91
00:05:38,450 --> 00:05:41,890
like... Can you tell them
what happened at the academy,

92
00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,420
when you're like sitting in
front of all those youth?

93
00:05:46,450 --> 00:05:50,190
Well, we had done a photoshoot
for inside and there's a bunch

94
00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:53,920
of little kids and when you're
like 7/8, I mean everything is

95
00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,250
is just like fun and games and
it's very hard to get the

96
00:05:57,290 --> 00:06:01,440
attention of that age group, but
it seems like, I open the Bible

97
00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,600
like all the kids just turned
their heads: Wow! he's opening

98
00:06:05,630 --> 00:06:08,690
a Bible! And I started reading
and their eyes opened,

99
00:06:08,730 --> 00:06:11,720
and they're like: Wow! I can
do this, too, you know,

100
00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:16,830
and they got really quiet and
I read in raving, it's just cool,

101
00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:19,390
to see these little kids just
turn around and say wow!

102
00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:21,880
And they sensed that, they
sensed, because I know you,

103
00:06:21,910 --> 00:06:27,210
so I'm thinking: here's this guy
that I know not long ago was

104
00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:31,730
in a programme for drug rehab,
a programme for troubled youth,

105
00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,910
and I know you were like selling
drugs, all that kind of stuff

106
00:06:35,940 --> 00:06:40,050
and now I see you in front of
what was it? Fifty or hundred?

107
00:06:40,090 --> 00:06:42,430
At least fifty, yeah,

108
00:06:42,460 --> 00:06:46,050
So, all these little kids and
they were looking at you like

109
00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:48,310
Wow! Are you going to share
the Bible with us?

110
00:06:48,350 --> 00:06:51,150
And I wanted to cry, because
I thought: what an unlikely

111
00:06:51,190 --> 00:06:54,030
witness you are! You are an
unlikely witness.

112
00:06:54,060 --> 00:06:57,620
And I think that's an incredible
thing.

113
00:06:57,650 --> 00:07:00,620
I'm sure we've all witnessed in
different ways, I mean, every

114
00:07:00,660 --> 00:07:04,790
single one of us has a story,
that we could tell.

115
00:07:04,820 --> 00:07:11,610
Can we do that? You know,
right now let's do that

116
00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,720
and,... say the name,
and watch your witness.

117
00:07:16,750 --> 00:07:21,800
Where do you come from and
what is your witness?

118
00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:24,100
Can you?

119
00:07:24,140 --> 00:07:27,950
Yeah, I can. My name is Karen
and I feel like, the place

120
00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:32,930
where I would be an unlikely
witness, is, I'm just coming

121
00:07:32,970 --> 00:07:37,880
from of having, I had leukemia,
and was healed from that

122
00:07:37,910 --> 00:07:40,160
and I'm now living my life
for God and everything,

123
00:07:40,190 --> 00:07:44,950
but I guess what is unlikely
about it, is instead, you know

124
00:07:44,990 --> 00:07:49,710
going through that and thinking
about the possibility of dying,

125
00:07:49,750 --> 00:07:53,350
and all this and through that
I chose to hold on to God

126
00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:56,960
and I chose to hold on to the
hope and the promises that He

127
00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:03,130
gave me, and so,...

128
00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,880
So when you said that unlikely
witness, because I met you

129
00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,600
through your singing and always
said like heard about the fact

130
00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,860
that you and went through
leukemia and lost all your hair

131
00:08:15,890 --> 00:08:19,370
and all that kind of stuff and
everything in me said:

132
00:08:19,410 --> 00:08:23,280
have I ever faced anything that
tragic or that intense

133
00:08:23,310 --> 00:08:27,120
physically? And so you
witnessed to me by that.

134
00:08:27,150 --> 00:08:32,550
And again I was just like: wow!
I mean that was a powerful

135
00:08:32,580 --> 00:08:37,950
witness and I watch you a lot
with people and you do witness

136
00:08:37,980 --> 00:08:40,620
a lot. Just because of who you
are.

137
00:08:40,660 --> 00:08:43,460
Just really, of who you are,
I mean I really enjoy being

138
00:08:43,500 --> 00:08:45,230
around you and like spending
time with you because

139
00:08:45,270 --> 00:08:50,670
I saw how you spoke and saw
the way you are, you're humble

140
00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:55,230
and it's like, you laugh on me,
I'm not as crazy, you know,

141
00:08:55,270 --> 00:08:58,910
love, just makes me feel good
inside, it makes me want to go

142
00:08:58,940 --> 00:09:02,550
and reach out to people more
and praise God's name more,

143
00:09:02,580 --> 00:09:06,540
praise God and stuff like that.

144
00:09:06,570 --> 00:09:11,200
Exactly. And an other thing.
Can you share a little bit,

145
00:09:11,230 --> 00:09:15,670
because I was so, I was talking
to your mom a few weeks ago

146
00:09:15,700 --> 00:09:20,100
and your mom was saying: oh,
yeah, well, she went, she's just

147
00:09:20,140 --> 00:09:22,260
got back from India, not long
ago and I went: India?

148
00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:25,580
Can you? I mean, and then you're
going, it's like you guys, are

149
00:09:25,610 --> 00:09:28,860
you going to hang out together
and then she's going to Tibeth.

150
00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:37,430
Yeah, I went to India, it's been
about 2 years and just I felt

151
00:09:37,460 --> 00:09:40,480
like, I did some training
schools with the organization

152
00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,460
I'm in "Youth for the mission."
And I felt like God was telling

153
00:09:43,490 --> 00:09:46,630
me to go to India and it was
a hard choice to make,

154
00:09:46,670 --> 00:09:50,660
because I felt like what my
life was about, what I wanted

155
00:09:50,700 --> 00:09:54,020
to do is singing and going
to India, I mean I just thought

156
00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:57,350
ther's going to be no singing
in India and so I felt like God

157
00:09:57,390 --> 00:10:00,070
asked me to lay down what I
wanted to do and what I felt

158
00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:04,890
like my hopes and my dreams were
so I went and had an incredible

159
00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:10,120
lifechanging experience, like
it was hard, but I look back

160
00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:12,430
on it and I said: I'd never
take that time back.

161
00:10:12,460 --> 00:10:15,750
What was it like? What did you
do?

162
00:10:15,780 --> 00:10:19,040
It was different than anything
I've ever grown up with here

163
00:10:19,070 --> 00:10:22,290
in America, like it was totally
different, but what we did,

164
00:10:22,330 --> 00:10:26,770
I was at a team of 3 girls
and our focus was prayer,

165
00:10:26,810 --> 00:10:30,480
and we'd have teams come in
and we'd take them out into

166
00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,260
different places in the
Hymalayans and just do different

167
00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:38,000
prayer, like we'd wake, everyday
we'd wake up and we'd say:

168
00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,220
ok, God, what do you have
for us to do today?

169
00:10:39,260 --> 00:10:43,240
And so much, I mean every time
He would come, he'd bring like

170
00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,590
a chapter in the Bible, like
one time we spoke about going

171
00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:49,920
to the 7 gates of the citiy
and this city that we were

172
00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:53,620
actually in, was a walled city,
at one time it had 7 gates

173
00:10:53,650 --> 00:10:56,720
and so we had specific
instructions as to what we were

174
00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,790
to do and I used to be a person
if prayer was longer than

175
00:10:59,820 --> 00:11:03,660
10 minutes, it was too long and

176
00:11:03,700 --> 00:11:06,700
It might seem to you like
sitting in the church and you're

177
00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:10,300
kneeling and you want to
pass it,

178
00:11:10,330 --> 00:11:18,030
yeah that's how I was and
God just told, He opened up

179
00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:19,490
and it seemed like it was
a whole new world,

180
00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:24,140
of prayer and so ended up,
I was supposed to be there for

181
00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:28,020
2 years and I came, I went out
to get my VISA and ended up

182
00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:31,140
not being able to get back
into the country, had to leave

183
00:11:31,180 --> 00:11:34,230
all my stuff and everything that
I had there, came back to

184
00:11:34,270 --> 00:11:37,370
America and did some more
schooling, got some more

185
00:11:37,410 --> 00:11:41,930
schooling in prayer and now I'm
getting ready to go to Tibeth

186
00:11:41,970 --> 00:11:44,760
and it's going to be...

187
00:11:44,790 --> 00:11:45,330
That's incredible!

188
00:11:45,370 --> 00:11:48,490
Yeah, the focus again it's
prayer and worship, we're going

189
00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,600
to be doing a track around
Mount Kailash and just hopefully

190
00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,860
have the opportunity to reach
out to the Buddhists

191
00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:58,080
that we find on the track or
in the towns where we're

192
00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,890
staying.

193
00:11:58,930 --> 00:12:02,010
Do you think, when you think
about where you came from

194
00:12:02,050 --> 00:12:05,090
and who you were, even
spiritually, you're an unlikely

195
00:12:05,130 --> 00:12:05,770
whitness?

196
00:12:05,810 --> 00:12:09,880
Totally. I look at my life now
and I think 4 years ago I would

197
00:12:09,910 --> 00:12:14,050
have never said, even thought
the word missionary.

198
00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,680
I feel the same way, like
a couple of years ago, not 4

199
00:12:17,710 --> 00:12:21,010
years but like 2 years ago
I didn't think what I'd be

200
00:12:21,050 --> 00:12:24,280
doing, I didn't think that
I would be sitting here,

201
00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:27,050
talking to all these wonderful
people and now I figured it out

202
00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,390
I would be dead or something,
I didn't figure out things

203
00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:37,140
would get this good. It's really
good to be here and hear other

204
00:12:37,180 --> 00:12:40,310
people and what they've been
through, you look at the person

205
00:12:40,350 --> 00:12:43,370
and everybody's been through
something, be it good or bad,

206
00:12:43,410 --> 00:12:46,800
someone's always been through
something and everybody

207
00:12:46,830 --> 00:12:50,150
is so different, that it's just
when you're around people

208
00:12:50,180 --> 00:12:53,040
and you hear their stories and
you say: wow! All these things

209
00:12:53,070 --> 00:12:56,600
go on and I'm just waiting for
the Lord to come and take

210
00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,130
away all this pain. We'll all
be here and we'll all be

211
00:13:00,170 --> 00:13:02,360
together, one big family
in heaven.

212
00:13:02,390 --> 00:13:05,210
To take us home.

213
00:13:05,250 --> 00:13:10,800
I don't think I would have had
any kind of future at all,

214
00:13:10,830 --> 00:13:14,063
if I wouldn't have met Cheri
through a patch and because

215
00:13:14,098 --> 00:13:18,330
Milton Cheryll came to Idaho,

216
00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,710
Milton Cheryll is a speaker
for focus on the family.

217
00:13:21,750 --> 00:13:22,980
He talks about drugs.

218
00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:26,430
And he came to Idaho to
where did he come from?

219
00:13:26,470 --> 00:13:27,880
He came from a Vancooverian
university

220
00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:34,480
and before he did his talk to
all the different schools

221
00:13:34,510 --> 00:13:38,270
and they all came there and
we went into this room

222
00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:42,020
and we were videotaping
something for the President,

223
00:13:42,060 --> 00:13:46,020
like for the conference,
for helping teens

224
00:13:46,060 --> 00:13:49,990
Oh, that's where we were. We
were videotaping something

225
00:13:50,030 --> 00:13:54,350
for the Volunteer summit,
they call it: "Pound in

226
00:13:54,380 --> 00:13:58,670
Philadelphia." And what an
unlikely group we were!

227
00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:01,620
That was amazing!

228
00:14:01,660 --> 00:14:06,260
I was up there, talking and
I said: how can I help myself

229
00:14:06,290 --> 00:14:10,850
not go back to the life that
I had before, which is, you know

230
00:14:10,890 --> 00:14:13,250
gang involvment and drugs
and stuff.

231
00:14:13,290 --> 00:14:18,150
And he was: I think you know
the answer to that,

232
00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:22,390
and he's like: how many could
you if you stay off drogs

233
00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:25,080
and if you help others to stay
off drugs, I'll give you a full

234
00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,480
scholarship to any college
you want to go to,

235
00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:33,490
and so I was like: yeah, I'll
do that.

236
00:14:33,530 --> 00:14:36,340
When that happened, the entire
room, we said: wait, wait, wait,

237
00:14:36,370 --> 00:14:41,920
what did he say? And I watched
you and it was the coolest

238
00:14:41,950 --> 00:14:45,140
thing what you did, you have
changed my life

239
00:14:45,170 --> 00:14:49,380
what your response to him was:
I never even thought I would

240
00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:52,970
go to college. It's like that
realization that you know what?

241
00:14:53,010 --> 00:14:56,600
If I choose right now, I can
change my life, because I have

242
00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,200
this opportunity and I thought
God could do something in

243
00:15:00,230 --> 00:15:00,810
a second.

244
00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,570
I never thought I was going to
be able to go to college,

245
00:15:02,610 --> 00:15:07,810
I thought that I'd either be in
jail or dead, so,...

246
00:15:07,850 --> 00:15:11,370
It seems like when he said that
to you, like He totally just

247
00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,890
set a key in your hand and
like I just see this big door

248
00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,860
and there's always opportunity,

249
00:15:16,890 --> 00:15:18,760
and all this stuff on other
side,

250
00:15:18,790 --> 00:15:22,140
it's just totally waiting that
is awesome.

251
00:15:22,180 --> 00:15:22,820
Awesome!

252
00:15:22,850 --> 00:15:27,020
That's the way God works.
He opens doors like that

253
00:15:27,060 --> 00:15:31,190
it's like, you know, you open
one and there's many

254
00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:33,530
and you just start with one.

255
00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,450
Because you know, I think
about, too, is that when you say

256
00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,860
that, the first part when you
said: Cheri, I met you.

257
00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:42,670
And I'm thinking, I was a heroine
addicted, lived on the streets

258
00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:47,720
for 10 years, my parents were
kids, what an unlikely witness

259
00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,870
I am! I get so humbled when I
God uses somebody, uses me

260
00:15:51,910 --> 00:15:55,770
to make an affect on someone,
because I know where I came

261
00:15:55,810 --> 00:16:00,130
from, I know that He has to hold
me so carefully sometimes,

262
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,410
and all that kind of thing and I
fall in love so much more when

263
00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:09,640
I think I can't believe that He
uses, it's like, when I look at,

264
00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:12,870
it's like, and I know the
demoniac must have felt that

265
00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:14,890
so you want me to go back and
tell them what?

266
00:16:14,930 --> 00:16:16,880
I don't think the're going even
to listen to me.

267
00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,420
You're propably wrong,

268
00:16:18,450 --> 00:16:25,460
That's right, you're propably
real. Ok, anyone else?

269
00:16:25,500 --> 00:16:29,810
I'm Megan and have a background
of drugs and gangs,

270
00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:39,700
and you got me to go to this
church, as just a week after

271
00:16:39,740 --> 00:16:44,580
I got out of the gang, and
you had me speak in front

272
00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:50,000
all these people in carnagation
and I told them about my

273
00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,220
background and how Cheri has
helped me a lot and then

274
00:16:53,250 --> 00:16:58,420
afterwards while we were just
sitting there, after it,

275
00:16:58,450 --> 00:17:00,110
a lady,...

276
00:17:00,140 --> 00:17:03,930
Wait, wait, wait! Because what
happened, I think was really

277
00:17:03,970 --> 00:17:07,450
cool, is that you got up and
talked about, you know, coming

278
00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,930
out of gangs and that hope about
changing lives, your life,

279
00:17:10,970 --> 00:17:14,360
and then when we were done,
so I was saying goodbye

280
00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,640
and I said: do you have anything
left to say? Do you want to say

281
00:17:17,670 --> 00:17:20,680
anything else to Megan? And
Megan was kind of, I thought,

282
00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:24,710
done and kind of quiet, and she
said: yes, I do.

283
00:17:24,750 --> 00:17:27,840
And she stepped up to the light
and she looked out and she said:

284
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,780
please, don't think that this
just happens to people out of

285
00:17:31,810 --> 00:17:34,080
religious homes. I was from
a religious home.

286
00:17:34,110 --> 00:17:37,770
I was from a strong religious
home, a home that loved me,

287
00:17:37,810 --> 00:17:40,570
and I still got lost
and I'm still out here,

288
00:17:40,610 --> 00:17:43,190
and so, please, remember that.
And so as she was talking,

289
00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:45,740
it was so powerful, I got
thrills, because I thought:

290
00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:50,190
Megan, where did I come from?
And then, tell, what this woman

291
00:17:50,230 --> 00:17:50,920
did afterwards?

292
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,390
We were sitting there and this
woman came up to me and

293
00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:56,960
she had tears in her eyes,
and she said that,

294
00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,820
that what I talked about, was
really powerful to her,

295
00:17:59,850 --> 00:18:04,070
her son had just been put in
jail for possession of crank,

296
00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:08,250
and she said that what I said
was really helpful, because

297
00:18:08,290 --> 00:18:12,320
it's not just in non Christian
homes that this happens,

298
00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:16,350
it's in a Christian family that
this can happen, too,

299
00:18:16,390 --> 00:18:18,160
and she was...

300
00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,320
She said and she was thankful,
because you were coming back

301
00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:26,250
and she saw her son hopefully
coming back. And when I looked

302
00:18:26,290 --> 00:18:30,140
at this woman, who is a doctor,
that was saying: Megan, thank

303
00:18:30,180 --> 00:18:33,910
you and I thought: uh!

304
00:18:33,940 --> 00:18:36,780
Sometimes parents need to hear
it from a teen's point of view,

305
00:18:36,810 --> 00:18:40,620
because actually they really
don't know what is going inside,

306
00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:44,060
in the teens' mind, you know
I mean, so many things go

307
00:18:44,100 --> 00:18:47,460
through one teen's mind that
it's just their parents can't

308
00:18:47,500 --> 00:18:50,600
grasp the hold of everything
and teens want to give

309
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,050
everything and when they hear
from someone else, you know,

310
00:18:54,090 --> 00:18:57,470
they can actually get the taste
of: maybe this is what my kids

311
00:18:57,500 --> 00:19:00,880
are thinking inside, maybe
I can reach out to them this

312
00:19:00,910 --> 00:19:02,660
way, and to know them this way,

313
00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:05,410
Exactly.

314
00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:08,190
I think that it's easy to
understand as a parent

315
00:19:08,220 --> 00:19:10,790
to your kid, you can kind of
get the overview what they're

316
00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:13,320
going through, because maybe
you went through the same

317
00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:18,610
thing as when you were a kid and
stuff, but as the years go by,

318
00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:23,180
and things change, and the way
people think changes,

319
00:19:23,220 --> 00:19:27,450
and so it's better to come from
teen to parent to tell them

320
00:19:27,490 --> 00:19:31,650
what's going on about their kids
or whatever, you know,

321
00:19:31,690 --> 00:19:35,390
because they are going to have
an overview like, an idea about

322
00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:38,830
they're not going to know,
because things change so

323
00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:39,800
rapidly,

324
00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:41,990
and sometimes we like to pretend
it's not happening.

325
00:19:42,020 --> 00:19:45,890
It's not happening and I don't
need to understand about drugs

326
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,890
or gangs, because I'm in a
Christian home. And you're

327
00:19:49,930 --> 00:19:51,160
saying: no, no, no, don't be
silly that way!

328
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:56,650
Because you need to understand.
Powerful witness. Powerful

329
00:19:56,690 --> 00:19:59,080
witness.

330
00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:03,400
I'm kind of unlikely whitness
for kids who have divorced

331
00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:07,260
parents, you know, you see,
I mean, it's not like I call

332
00:20:07,300 --> 00:20:11,090
I wanted to be, you know,
I didn't want my parents to get

333
00:20:11,130 --> 00:20:17,020
divorced so I could be a
witness, but, you know,

334
00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:20,810
it's just, I mean, just because
your parents get divorced,

335
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,560
it doesn't mean that it's all
your fault, it shouldn't be

336
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,590
your fault,

337
00:20:25,630 --> 00:20:26,460
And you had to learn that.

338
00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:27,160
Yeah.

339
00:20:27,190 --> 00:20:27,790
First.

340
00:20:27,820 --> 00:20:33,330
Because no matter what happens,
your parents, you know, your

341
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:38,160
parents usually love you and
just because they get divorced,

342
00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:42,960
it doesn't mean that they don't
love you, they're just having

343
00:20:42,990 --> 00:20:44,760
problems in their marriages.

344
00:20:44,790 --> 00:20:46,940
You know, Beth, the first time
I heard you talk about that

345
00:20:46,980 --> 00:20:50,070
and divorce, and you were
talking to a group of us,

346
00:20:50,110 --> 00:20:53,160
that I think most of us have
parents who are divorced.

347
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,870
Like my parents had been
divorced.

348
00:20:54,900 --> 00:21:01,870
Half of the people in, I mean,
even Adventists, half of the

349
00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:02,920
population get divorced.

350
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:04,580
Exactly.

351
00:21:04,610 --> 00:21:05,620
Or even more than that.

352
00:21:05,650 --> 00:21:09,780
You know, what really touched
me, that what you learned about

353
00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:12,630
anger and feelings. Can you
share that a little bit, what

354
00:21:12,660 --> 00:21:15,429
you learned and how important
it is, especially going

355
00:21:15,464 --> 00:21:16,714
through divorce.

356
00:21:16,749 --> 00:21:19,570
Well, you know, right when your
parents get divorced,

357
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,630
I mean, I was feeling kind of
angry, kind of sad, kind of

358
00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:29,650
everything. I was like, it's
kind of like you feel like it's

359
00:21:29,690 --> 00:21:32,770
all your falt and you don't
know what to do, you just

360
00:21:32,810 --> 00:21:35,880
it's just all frustrating, it's
really frustrating.

361
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,860
You know, I mean, your mind's
all mixed up, you don't know

362
00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:39,760
what you're thinking,

363
00:21:39,790 --> 00:21:42,170
So what did you end up doing?

364
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,150
I just, you know, it's good to
write things out, you know,

365
00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:51,610
to sort out things, trying to
get in touch with what you're

366
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,030
feeling, and another thing is
to talk to your parents about it

367
00:21:57,060 --> 00:22:00,350
And so when I heard you say
that, I saw people look like

368
00:22:00,390 --> 00:22:03,610
listening and saying: maybe I
need to talk to somebody about

369
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,390
it and I thought what a witness,
because I know that you wouldn't

370
00:22:07,420 --> 00:22:10,580
have, I know that you wouldn't
have wanted this, like you said,

371
00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:13,690
I didn't choose divorce to be
a witness. But you were such

372
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,710
a powerful witness to the group
that you were talking to,

373
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:19,700
because you were so real
with them. This is what I had

374
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:21,220
to learn.

375
00:22:21,250 --> 00:22:23,950
It's really hard to have your
parents divorced, because if

376
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:25,320
you're used to having them
together.

377
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:27,000
Right, right.

378
00:22:27,030 --> 00:22:32,400
I think that teens nowadays have
to cope with a lot of those

379
00:22:32,430 --> 00:22:36,420
things, I mean, I come from a
divorced home, and stuff like

380
00:22:36,450 --> 00:22:40,400
that, but I was so young that
I didn't know what I was going

381
00:22:40,430 --> 00:22:44,370
through then, but it hit me
as I got older, you know,

382
00:22:44,410 --> 00:22:48,280
it's like, I had those feelings
when I was young,

383
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:52,820
but growing up it's like you,
there's something missing in

384
00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:56,570
your life and you just don't
know what it is. And it's just

385
00:22:56,610 --> 00:23:01,090
like you have to look for God,
and all that to help you,

386
00:23:01,130 --> 00:23:05,900
help you fill that void, that
God is my father, I won't have

387
00:23:05,930 --> 00:23:10,670
a father untill I get to heaven,
and I had my mom and my mom

388
00:23:10,710 --> 00:23:13,700
loves me daily and she says:
I'm your mom and your dad,

389
00:23:13,730 --> 00:23:17,970
you know, I'm not like that,
it makes me laugh, because I

390
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,350
have a mom-dad, it just fits
like that, but it is always a

391
00:23:21,380 --> 00:23:25,090
feeling of guilt and stuff,
when that first happens and

392
00:23:25,130 --> 00:23:29,680
in divorced families, because
it's like: oh, what did I do?

393
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:34,240
It's all my fault, and stuff like
that and teens nowadays, they

394
00:23:34,270 --> 00:23:38,490
go and do things to
medicate themselves, they

395
00:23:38,530 --> 00:23:41,870
think it's my fault, I'll get
out of here and do something

396
00:23:41,910 --> 00:23:45,540
else. And it's just that you've
got to keep your head up

397
00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:49,170
about everything and just
think: this is happening for

398
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,140
a reason, everything happens
for a reason.

399
00:23:52,180 --> 00:23:57,850
Exactly. Anybody else, because
you know I'm thinking of

400
00:23:57,890 --> 00:24:03,490
Shanni, can you, do you want
to share anything about the

401
00:24:03,530 --> 00:24:06,430
unlikely witness? Because to
me, I think you're an unlikely

402
00:24:06,460 --> 00:24:15,250
witness. And I know that
sometimes we're so close to

403
00:24:15,290 --> 00:24:19,530
our stuff that even when we
think of ourselves as a witness,

404
00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:23,230
just is mind bothering. But you
have affected me and so I was

405
00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:28,120
just wondering if there's
anything you want to share about.

406
00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:32,970
I guess I'm an unlikely witness
because like I was raised in a

407
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,320
family when I first started out,
I guess as a little kid,

408
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:42,280
people at my house didn't really
believe in God and, I mean

409
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,150
like my grandparents were really
big 7th day Adventists and

410
00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:48,920
and everytime I went to visit
them, God was like always an

411
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:52,410
everyday thing, but my parents
really didn't believe in God

412
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,470
so that I really was never,
besides only my grandparents

413
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:58,490
which usually wasn't there long
enough to end of going to

414
00:24:58,530 --> 00:25:01,390
church, I really didn't
understand what that was about,

415
00:25:01,430 --> 00:25:04,220
you know, I thought, you know,
that's them and they're weird,

416
00:25:04,250 --> 00:25:08,280
because I've just never been
exposed to that and then somehow

417
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:15,370
I found you guys and I found God
and I'm still trying to find

418
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,740
well, that's all about for me,
because I'm still not really

419
00:25:17,770 --> 00:25:18,930
sure.

420
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,180
Ok, you know it's a lot to me
that you witness that just

421
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:23,400
I'm not sure, I'm just at a place
where I'm not sure yet,

422
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,180
and it makes me think,
I have a favourite song,

423
00:25:26,220 --> 00:25:29,900
favourite song and it's
"Amazing Grace"

424
00:25:29,930 --> 00:25:32,500
Does anybody know that?
Because I love this.

425
00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:34,400
Yeah, I know that song, too.

426
00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:36,730
Do you know that?

427
00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:38,990
Can you guys sing it?

428
00:25:39,030 --> 00:25:41,200
Come over here and
sing along with us.

429
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,740
Good. I love that song. And
I think because of the unlikely

430
00:25:43,770 --> 00:25:46,240
witness and the fact that it's
amazing the grace that God

431
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,450
shows us, this song is special
to me.

432
00:25:55,430 --> 00:26:04,510
Amazing grace how sweet
the sound

433
00:26:04,540 --> 00:26:14,680
that saved a wretch like me,

434
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:25,550
I once was lost, but now
I'm found

435
00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:35,500
Was blind but now I see.

436
00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:38,820
Wow!

437
00:26:38,850 --> 00:26:43,950
That is so cool! And I think that
when I think about us as

438
00:26:43,980 --> 00:26:49,130
a group, and I think about
the times that we get together

439
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,270
and talk to someone else about
God, what an unlikely group!

440
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,770
What an unlikely group!
Everybody comes from such

441
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,930
different places and everybody,
you know, it's like even

442
00:26:58,970 --> 00:27:02,420
throughout the United States
we are from different states.

443
00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:05,330
We are from different
backgrounds, we have,

444
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,660
some of us from homeless
shelters, I was from the

445
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:11,170
streets, Lenny from dealing
drugs, Megan from gangs

446
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,420
and we're so from different
places and yet this unlikely

447
00:27:15,450 --> 00:27:19,640
group gets in front of someone
and they hear God or see God

448
00:27:19,670 --> 00:27:21,840
through our hope and through
our testimonies

449
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,980
and through our, what we're
doing in our lives.

450
00:27:24,020 --> 00:27:27,650
That's amazing and I think
only through the grace of God

451
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,280
and that's why "Amazing Grace"
is my most favourite song.

452
00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:33,970
And so I want to say
goodbye and thank you

453
00:27:34,010 --> 00:27:36,600
joining us on "Teen Pathways"
and remember

454
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:41,330
that God uses unlikely
witnessess. See you next time!