1 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:11,930 Teen Pathways 2 00:00:19,850 --> 00:00:22,270 Hi! My name is Cheri and welcome to Teen Pathways! 3 00:00:22,310 --> 00:00:27,880 We're getting ready right now to do a scene of a prayer, 4 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,960 I'm not going to even tell you about it. I'm going to introduce 5 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,010 you to the group first, so that you know who we are and where 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,170 we've come from and then we're going to do a scene 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,750 and this particular episode is going to be about 8 00:00:38,780 --> 00:00:41,260 prayer, it's going to be exciting, it's my favourite 9 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:43,640 topic. So first of all I want to introduce you to the group, 10 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:44,980 go ahead, you start. 11 00:00:45,020 --> 00:00:47,300 My name is Karen and I live in Texas. 12 00:00:47,340 --> 00:00:52,510 My name is Jackie Ravine and I live in Washington. 13 00:00:52,550 --> 00:00:57,690 My name is Lori Sproat and I live in Eagle, Idaho. 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,440 And I believe that prayer works. 15 00:00:59,470 --> 00:01:00,610 Amen. 16 00:01:00,650 --> 00:01:05,310 My name is Paddy McCoy and I also live for the moment 17 00:01:05,340 --> 00:01:09,970 in Washington and I spend 24 hours a day at Washington 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,100 College. I live there. 19 00:01:12,140 --> 00:01:16,820 My name is Cari Chenoweth and I'm from Medford, Oregon. 20 00:01:16,860 --> 00:01:20,580 My name is Jason Henry and I'm from Sweet Home, Oregon. 21 00:01:20,620 --> 00:01:26,330 Thanks for joining us and thanks for sharing your ideas on prayer. 22 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,390 I have to say first of all that I saw this scene and I think it 23 00:01:30,430 --> 00:01:34,430 was in Washington. I saw the scene in Washington and the first 24 00:01:34,460 --> 00:01:38,240 time I saw it, I was just amazed and we'll talk about 25 00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:41,890 your reaction to that after you see the scene. 26 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,230 So go ahead Jackie and Paddy. 27 00:01:45,260 --> 00:01:46,230 No pressure. 28 00:01:54,050 --> 00:01:56,870 Our Father who are in heaven. 29 00:01:56,900 --> 00:01:58,950 Yes. 30 00:01:58,990 --> 00:02:02,880 Sssh, don't interrupt me, I'm praying. 31 00:02:02,910 --> 00:02:04,490 But you called Me. 32 00:02:04,530 --> 00:02:08,160 Called you? I'm just saying a prayer. 33 00:02:08,190 --> 00:02:09,990 Our Father who are in heaven 34 00:02:10,030 --> 00:02:11,800 There! You did it again. 35 00:02:11,830 --> 00:02:12,430 Did what? 36 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:15,160 You called Me. You said Our Father who are in heaven. 37 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:19,130 Look, that's just the words to the prayer, ok? 38 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,760 "Our Father, who are in heaven" 39 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:26,180 "Hollowed be Thy name." 40 00:02:26,220 --> 00:02:29,190 Al right. What exactly does that mean: "hollowed be Thy 41 00:02:29,220 --> 00:02:29,750 name?" Do you know? 42 00:02:29,790 --> 00:02:32,640 Yeah, it means that Your name is..., that... 43 00:02:32,670 --> 00:02:34,340 er, er... You should, 44 00:02:34,380 --> 00:02:42,330 I didn't write it, I just say it, ok, so I...What does it mean? 45 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,430 It means: "honored, holly. wonderful," 46 00:02:46,460 --> 00:02:50,460 "Hollowed be Thy name." It makes sense. 47 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:55,310 "Our Father who are in heaven, hollowed be Thy name, 48 00:02:55,340 --> 00:02:58,280 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done." 49 00:02:58,310 --> 00:02:59,830 "On Earth as it is in heaven." 50 00:02:59,870 --> 00:03:02,700 Ok, hold on. Do you really mean that? 51 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:06,670 Well, yeah. Sure. 52 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:11,100 Ok, if you mean "Thy will be done on earth as it is in 53 00:03:11,130 --> 00:03:12,350 heaven," what are you doing about it? 54 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:18,000 When I say "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven", 55 00:03:18,030 --> 00:03:23,610 I'm thinking that it would be good if You controll things on 56 00:03:23,640 --> 00:03:25,140 earth like You do in heaven. 57 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:26,650 Have I got controll over you? 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,950 I go to church. 59 00:03:30,990 --> 00:03:33,980 That isn't what I asked. A lot of people go to church, 60 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:37,330 but what I'm talking about, is the type of things that you do, 61 00:03:37,370 --> 00:03:40,500 the books you read, the movies you watch, or how you spend 62 00:03:40,530 --> 00:03:43,630 so much money on yourself and and so little time with anyone 63 00:03:43,660 --> 00:03:44,220 else. 64 00:03:44,260 --> 00:03:45,610 Can You please stop picking on me?! 65 00:03:45,650 --> 00:03:50,730 I mean I'm just as good as the other people at church. 66 00:03:50,770 --> 00:03:55,220 "Our Father who are in heaven, hollowed be Thy name, 67 00:03:55,250 --> 00:03:59,670 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in 68 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:03,090 heaven. Give us this day our dayly bread, 69 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,840 and... 70 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:07,450 And... go on with the next part. 71 00:04:07,490 --> 00:04:09,840 I don't want to go on with the next part. 72 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,040 It's one of my favorites, really, please, just say it. 73 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:18,050 I know what you're going to say. 74 00:04:18,090 --> 00:04:19,600 I can see that you're maybe a little scared. 75 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:23,010 Praying is a dangerous thing, you could wind up change??? 76 00:04:23,050 --> 00:04:26,780 But go on, I'm right here with you, so just say the next part. 77 00:04:26,810 --> 00:04:30,940 "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors." 78 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:33,340 Ok, what about Bill? 79 00:04:33,380 --> 00:04:38,320 I know You were going to bring up Bill but Bill really made me 80 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:43,270 mad. Bill hurt me. He spread lies about me, Bill took a lot 81 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:46,090 of my money and I'm going to get even with Bill. 82 00:04:46,130 --> 00:04:49,400 But your prayer. What about what you said in your prayer 83 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,680 "forgive us our debts and our sins as we forgive those who 84 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:54,390 sinned against us". 85 00:04:54,430 --> 00:04:56,040 I didn't mean Bill. 86 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,250 At least you're honest I guess. But it's not much fun carrying 87 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,160 round that load of bitterness inside, is it? 88 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:06,110 Look, I'm going to feel a lot better once I get even with Bill. 89 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:08,220 I have some things that are planned for him, 90 00:05:08,260 --> 00:05:10,600 that are going to make him sorry he ever crossed my 91 00:05:10,630 --> 00:05:13,720 path. So, then I'll feel better. 92 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,190 I hate to burst you a little bubbled hair, but I promise you, 93 00:05:18,220 --> 00:05:20,930 you won't feel any better, you'll only feel worse. 94 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Revenge isn't so sweet. Think of how unhappy you 95 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:27,260 already are. I can change that. 96 00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:28,220 You can? 97 00:05:28,260 --> 00:05:31,230 Yeah, the answer's easy. Forgive Bill! 98 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:34,660 Then I can forgive you and all the hate and the bitterness 99 00:05:34,690 --> 00:05:36,390 will be Bill's problem, not yours. 100 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:39,570 But I can't forgive Bill. 101 00:05:39,610 --> 00:05:41,860 Then I'm sorry I can't forgive you. 102 00:05:41,890 --> 00:05:47,980 I guess that's true, isn't it? 103 00:05:52,250 --> 00:05:57,350 It's more important for me to be right with you than to get 104 00:05:57,380 --> 00:06:00,990 revenge with Bill. You're right. 105 00:06:01,030 --> 00:06:08,300 Ok, I forgive Bill. Be with him and bless him. 106 00:06:08,330 --> 00:06:10,230 Please. 107 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:12,030 There! Now how do you feel? 108 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:18,660 Kind of good actually. Not so bad at all. 109 00:06:18,700 --> 00:06:23,300 I'm proud of you. Now go on with the rest of your prayer. 110 00:06:23,330 --> 00:06:26,320 "Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors." 111 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,840 "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil." 112 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,540 Good, good, I'll do just that, but I need your help in this 113 00:06:33,570 --> 00:06:37,200 one. I need you to not put yourself in a place where you 114 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:38,610 can be tempted. 115 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,950 I don't understand. 116 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:42,430 Ok, like take some of your friendships. 117 00:06:42,470 --> 00:06:46,090 Some of your friendships need to change, because you're so 118 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,820 called friends are beginnig to bring you down. 119 00:06:47,850 --> 00:06:50,590 And don't use me for an escape patch. 120 00:06:50,620 --> 00:06:52,200 What do you mean? 121 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,910 Well, you get caught in a bad situation, 122 00:06:55,950 --> 00:06:58,470 and you come right to me. How does that prayer go: 123 00:06:58,510 --> 00:07:01,000 I'm sure you'll recognize it, it's something like: 124 00:07:01,030 --> 00:07:03,600 "Lord, help me out of this mess and I promice 125 00:07:03,630 --> 00:07:04,740 I'll never do it again." 126 00:07:04,780 --> 00:07:06,480 Do you remember those promices? 127 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,150 Oh, yeah. I remember those. 128 00:07:08,190 --> 00:07:09,670 Which one are you thinking about right now? 129 00:07:09,710 --> 00:07:12,590 I just remember that one time when I was actually 130 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:15,470 at a bar, I was too drunk, and I was leaving and my 131 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:18,440 neighbour saw me and I remember saying: 132 00:07:18,470 --> 00:07:21,340 "Oh, God, please don't let her tell my mom. 133 00:07:21,380 --> 00:07:27,750 And if she doesn't tell my mom, I promice I'll go to church 134 00:07:27,780 --> 00:07:28,840 every week." 135 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,520 Now if I remember correctly and since I am God, 136 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:38,280 I usually do. You didn't tell your mother, the lady didn't 137 00:07:38,310 --> 00:07:39,790 tell your mother, but you didn't keep your promice. 138 00:07:39,820 --> 00:07:43,540 No, I didn't. I'm sorry. 139 00:07:43,580 --> 00:07:50,520 I forgive you. Now finish your prayer, almost done. Go ahead. 140 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:54,650 "For Thine is the kingdom and the power, 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,360 the glory, forever." 142 00:07:57,390 --> 00:07:59,050 Amen. 143 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:04,060 Do you know what really make me happy? 144 00:08:04,100 --> 00:08:07,110 No. But I'd like to. I'd really like to. 145 00:08:07,150 --> 00:08:11,440 Ok. What really, really make me happy, is that if people, 146 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,400 like you, truly dedicate it to me. You see, true freedom 147 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:19,320 comes to people who turn their lives over to my guidance. 148 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:23,280 Let me take controll for a while, and I can see that 149 00:08:23,310 --> 00:08:26,130 beginnig to happen between us. 150 00:08:26,170 --> 00:08:30,330 Ok, so how about if we see what we can do with me. 151 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,330 That sounds like a great idea. 152 00:08:34,370 --> 00:08:37,760 Yeah, it does. I guess that's good night, then? 153 00:08:37,790 --> 00:08:42,140 I guess so. Good night and one more thing: 154 00:08:42,170 --> 00:08:44,130 I love you. 155 00:08:44,170 --> 00:08:46,060 I know. 156 00:08:46,100 --> 00:08:51,100 That was good. We love that. 157 00:08:51,140 --> 00:08:54,550 And there's a couple of things about that that I think is 158 00:08:54,580 --> 00:08:57,680 so incredible. One is, a lot of times I think that 159 00:08:57,710 --> 00:09:00,780 we don't let God interfere with our Christianity. 160 00:09:00,810 --> 00:09:03,860 And to me it was really watching you guys 161 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:07,790 is that we don't let Him come in, and when He does, we're 162 00:09:07,820 --> 00:09:11,680 changed, we're just changed. And so that's what I hope we'll 163 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:15,340 cover today's show is that what do we do when we pray, 164 00:09:15,380 --> 00:09:18,830 and is it real? Do we let God in and can He change us if we do? 165 00:09:18,860 --> 00:09:22,920 Any thoughts about the scene that you just saw? 166 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:30,260 I just like how easy it seemed like your conversation, 167 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:31,670 it just seemed you were talking to a friend, 168 00:09:31,710 --> 00:09:35,930 it wasn't like you were talking to this Creator of the universe 169 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,830 it just seemed so simple the conversation and how she just 170 00:09:40,870 --> 00:09:45,670 she was saying the prayer it wasn't any specific recipe 171 00:09:45,710 --> 00:09:49,330 or whatever to hear from God, but it was just a conversation. 172 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,950 I like how simple that is. 173 00:09:51,990 --> 00:09:56,480 Now you know I think it's interesting, because even in the 174 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,350 prayer that was used in the Lord's prayer, as it is so 175 00:10:00,390 --> 00:10:04,390 formalized sometimes and we think that when we talk to God, 176 00:10:04,420 --> 00:10:09,380 it has to this big speech that's been prepared beforehand, 177 00:10:09,410 --> 00:10:14,340 and in my prayer life, I've just gone through a point where 178 00:10:14,370 --> 00:10:17,220 it is like that, where what you're saying it's just 179 00:10:17,260 --> 00:10:20,040 a personal relationship. You're just talking, it's like 180 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,780 He's a friend. And it's funny, because one of the things that 181 00:10:22,810 --> 00:10:25,930 I do, sometimes when I pray, I pray often in the car, 182 00:10:25,970 --> 00:10:28,640 and so I'm driving around and of course people are looking 183 00:10:28,670 --> 00:10:30,400 over and... 184 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:35,970 And at times I use handgestures a lot when I talk, 185 00:10:36,010 --> 00:10:39,080 and so I would throw my hands around and I remember one time 186 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:41,250 down the road and I was really getting into it, 187 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,390 and one time I looked into my rearview mirror and 188 00:10:43,420 --> 00:10:46,680 and people in the back are... 189 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,520 But it's free when you're able to talk to God as though He is your 190 00:10:51,550 --> 00:10:53,760 best friend. 191 00:10:53,790 --> 00:10:54,840 Yeah. 192 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:55,800 Because He is. 193 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,880 I think of David. I think to me David out of propably the mostly 194 00:10:59,910 --> 00:11:03,560 characters in the Bible, there was able to free themselves 195 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,220 up totally, I mean so much so that maybe it's propably even 196 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:10,020 little scary to think of praying to God the way 197 00:11:10,060 --> 00:11:15,260 David did talk to God that way. I mean David would ask God 198 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:19,090 wipe my enemies out. 199 00:11:19,130 --> 00:11:21,930 When all the sudden I'm really mad at something, 200 00:11:21,970 --> 00:11:24,690 when something has gone wrong and stuff and I read David, 201 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,270 saying that I laugh, because He was honest, he said: just 202 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:31,860 cut their head off and when I'm thinking God is so cool, 203 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:35,390 because He just knows even the times that we're soft and 204 00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:38,420 the times that we're just out of controll and He waits for us 205 00:11:38,450 --> 00:11:41,410 to get through that and says, like he said to David is I love 206 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,500 you, now let's work on that. 207 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:47,560 He was speaking, like David, it says that he was a man after 208 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:52,070 God's own heart and yet there was a time where he had 209 00:11:52,110 --> 00:11:56,360 been unfair and did all this kind of things, except I think, 210 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,580 when I think of prayer, like David is the man, like he was 211 00:12:00,620 --> 00:12:05,480 there as far as his communication with God and I think about a time 212 00:12:05,510 --> 00:12:11,470 when I wasn't not walking with God at all. I was diagnosed with 213 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:14,920 leukemia and I was sitting in my room and it was like 214 00:12:14,950 --> 00:12:16,750 two days before I had my first kemo treatment, 215 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,720 and I didn't know if I was going to live or die still, 216 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:25,020 kemo works sometimes, sometimes it doesn't and I just sat in my 217 00:12:25,050 --> 00:12:28,230 room and I grew up learning prayers like you pray when 218 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:29,550 you eat, you pray at thanksgiving, 219 00:12:29,590 --> 00:12:33,980 and for some reason I just sat in my room when I sat there, 220 00:12:34,010 --> 00:12:36,980 I said: "God I want to know if I'm going to die." 221 00:12:37,020 --> 00:12:41,440 And I just sat there and waited. And all the sudden I heard He's 222 00:12:41,470 --> 00:12:43,260 like: "I want you to read the book of Isaiah, 223 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:46,460 and read a chapter each day and at the end you'll be healed" 224 00:12:46,490 --> 00:12:50,670 And I was like did I just hear or I thought? 225 00:12:50,710 --> 00:12:54,800 The first thing I did I got a Bible, I didn't know how 226 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,740 many chapters was in the book of Isaiah, I was hoping, it was 227 00:12:57,770 --> 00:12:59,120 like two or something, 228 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:04,730 I ended up there were 66 and then the first person I went to, 229 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,310 was my mom and I said: "Mom, I just heard God tell me this 230 00:13:08,340 --> 00:13:11,860 He said I'm going to be healed and my mom, she didn't question 231 00:13:11,890 --> 00:13:16,620 it. She was like: ok, and I was like so I really I heard 232 00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:19,100 from God and like it was just amazing. 233 00:13:19,140 --> 00:13:23,320 And so no matter where you're at or whatever, like you can 234 00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:28,620 You know, I know your story because for one I'm crazy about, 235 00:13:28,650 --> 00:13:31,160 I just know your story, I've known you for a while 236 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,140 and so in the process you were in the kemo, you lost all your hair, 237 00:13:36,170 --> 00:13:38,500 I mean there were times that it was not, I think 238 00:13:38,540 --> 00:13:42,000 did you experiment all treatments with you at one time? 239 00:13:42,030 --> 00:13:46,450 The whole treatment, that was the first time they did it on anybody 240 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:50,880 So to me I think about that, in the phase of that you never 241 00:13:50,910 --> 00:13:54,130 question the original thing. That is so amazing. 242 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,720 That is so amazing. Now I think there's different times 243 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,200 that I have had to pray really seriously, I had really serious 244 00:14:05,230 --> 00:14:09,490 prayers where God had to come through and one of them, 245 00:14:09,530 --> 00:14:12,200 I have to share this with you. One of them, I am married to 246 00:14:12,230 --> 00:14:15,310 a wonderful guy, you know my background, I was homeless 247 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:18,400 for ten years, heroin addict, my parents were 14 and 16 248 00:14:18,430 --> 00:14:20,240 years old, and when I married this guy, 249 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,970 it is a boy scout he was a little older when I 250 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,310 married him, I'm going to clarify that. 251 00:14:28,350 --> 00:14:30,630 He was a boy scout, he was 18 he was my age 252 00:14:30,670 --> 00:14:36,030 when I met him. And so I married him and one of the things he 253 00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:37,690 loves to do, is to show me some normal things, 254 00:14:37,730 --> 00:14:42,350 So every year we would do something, stuff that normal 255 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:44,920 people do, we went one year to go to see something, 256 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,790 he never tells me he had a time, he plans this whole thing out 257 00:14:47,820 --> 00:14:49,880 and he just cries because he sets it like a gift to me, 258 00:14:49,910 --> 00:14:52,730 I mean it's such an incredible thing that he does. 259 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:55,550 And so we're on the way, storms come in, and it's blizzarding 260 00:14:55,580 --> 00:14:58,540 and we can't get to this spot that he wants to show me. 261 00:14:58,570 --> 00:15:00,650 And he turns around and he's a new Christian, 262 00:15:00,690 --> 00:15:02,840 brand new Christian, and he turns around and he says 263 00:15:02,870 --> 00:15:04,640 to me, he says: "Honey will you pray?" 264 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,120 And by this time the road has been closed for 3 hours, 265 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,300 due to the storms, we were sitting on the side of the road, 266 00:15:11,330 --> 00:15:14,440 waiting to go off the freeway unto the little road that leads 267 00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:16,240 up to the mountains and I'm thinking: "pray?, I think 268 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,630 we're going to die." And so then he says: "will you pray?" 269 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:22,990 and I turned around the town, and I say: "Pray about what?" 270 00:15:23,020 --> 00:15:25,090 And he says: "pray that the wheather clear up." 271 00:15:25,130 --> 00:15:28,370 And I say: "do you want me to pray that God clears up the 272 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,220 weather?" And I said that, he started to tear up. 273 00:15:31,260 --> 00:15:35,120 And I thought, and so I turned around and I suddenly said: 274 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,100 "Lord, I was homeless, I was a wreck, You changed my life, 275 00:15:39,130 --> 00:15:43,040 You gave me this wonderful man this child, You fed the 5000, 276 00:15:43,070 --> 00:15:46,500 I've seen Your miracles in Your kids' lives every day, 277 00:15:46,530 --> 00:15:49,890 please, do this for him and I was literally crying, 278 00:15:49,930 --> 00:15:51,920 and it's got to be the same thing when you know you're going 279 00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:54,530 to die, it's just that sense that I know that this is 280 00:15:54,570 --> 00:15:56,930 kind of a life and death thing for him spiritually, 281 00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:59,550 and all the sudden the weather started clearing up, 282 00:15:59,590 --> 00:16:01,570 the blizzard has gone, by the time we got where we 283 00:16:01,610 --> 00:16:03,520 were going, I have pictures of this whole day, 284 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,280 because it was such a miracle, by the time we get to where 285 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:09,140 we were going, we went to Devil's Tower and the??? 286 00:16:09,170 --> 00:16:11,970 by the time we get there, the weather has cleared up 287 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,270 up enough for that we could see some blue skies, 288 00:16:14,310 --> 00:16:16,510 we hiked around this tower, that's just a rockformation 289 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:19,860 and by the time we came around in the front, the cloud cleared, 290 00:16:19,890 --> 00:16:23,130 and the sun shone on this mountain for 5 minutes. 291 00:16:23,170 --> 00:16:28,430 And I stood there and I think help me to believe in prayer, 292 00:16:28,460 --> 00:16:32,810 help me to believe that You hear us, that You love us, 293 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:38,550 what is the parable about faith of the mustard seed, 294 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:44,190 I have a question, though that I want to place before you, guys, 295 00:16:44,220 --> 00:16:50,280 What do we do when the weather doesn't clear up? 296 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:54,320 When we finish Isaiah, we're not phisically healed, like we 297 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,310 thought it might be. 298 00:16:55,350 --> 00:16:59,220 I think that we need to understand that God's will is not 299 00:16:59,260 --> 00:17:03,480 always what our will is, it's not always what we think that 300 00:17:03,510 --> 00:17:05,590 it should be, that I need to pray for Thy will to be done, 301 00:17:05,630 --> 00:17:09,120 instead of what we want to be done. Because it's not always 302 00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:10,240 the way we think. 303 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:17,320 And sometimes the answer is not always yes, I mean sometimes 304 00:17:17,350 --> 00:17:20,780 we may want it to be yes from the bottom our heart but sometimes 305 00:17:20,810 --> 00:17:24,780 His answer is no and His answer is not now, 306 00:17:24,810 --> 00:17:29,140 or just wait or hold on. 307 00:17:29,180 --> 00:17:34,100 I think that Cheri and I have a similar experience 308 00:17:34,140 --> 00:17:38,990 our family, my family is not really church background, 309 00:17:39,030 --> 00:17:43,120 not really Christian, I've never gone to church growing up at all, 310 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,220 but when I became a Christian, God started answering my prayers 311 00:17:47,250 --> 00:17:51,510 not with still small voices, but with thunderbolts, 312 00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:55,730 like huge miracles and my family was a part into that, 313 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:58,740 being able to see that and for a long time I was so excited 314 00:17:58,780 --> 00:18:01,680 that my life could be such a testimony to my family and 315 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:06,790 and to the existence of God, untill my little brother and 316 00:18:06,820 --> 00:18:11,920 sister learned to pray and they would pray for God to help 317 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,060 mom and dad are fighting, help them to get better, our mom 318 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:19,430 and dad get divorced and they would pray, we don't have enough 319 00:18:19,460 --> 00:18:22,230 money for our electricity this month and it's wintertime, 320 00:18:22,260 --> 00:18:24,760 and the electricity we get turned off, 321 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,860 and I remember one point, one of my familymember said: 322 00:18:28,890 --> 00:18:32,000 "you taught me to pray, and I wish you hadn't." 323 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,500 I mean not a very scary thing, I think for me when I had to come 324 00:18:36,530 --> 00:18:41,220 to my own life and maybe you guys have some feedback about this, 325 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:45,650 is that God is God and I am not. And I'm not going to understand 326 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:50,050 His choices for people around me. And I don't have to justify 327 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,320 His work in my life and I don't have to justify His work 328 00:18:54,360 --> 00:18:57,400 or quiteness in other peoples' lives. I just have to be willing 329 00:18:57,430 --> 00:19:00,570 to say God is God and I'm not. 330 00:19:00,610 --> 00:19:03,180 That's true. We so often think we feel we often have to 331 00:19:03,210 --> 00:19:05,510 wrap or understand around something, 332 00:19:05,550 --> 00:19:08,150 which is really kind of like a controll issue. 333 00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:13,130 Because as human beings, I mean scientists,they have to explain 334 00:19:13,170 --> 00:19:18,080 everything, they can't explain it, they get upset or whatever, 335 00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:21,980 and so we have to. like one, I've heard one pastor say 336 00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:25,460 one time he said, sometimes as Christians we think 337 00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:28,860 that just because like a disaster didn't happen 338 00:19:28,900 --> 00:19:31,030 to a group of people because there were some Christians 339 00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:38,650 is because they were Christians. If a plane goes down, then if 340 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,580 a plane doesn't go down then we think, maybe it's because 341 00:19:41,610 --> 00:19:44,370 there were some Christians aboard and God spared the plane, 342 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,090 it's not always true. 343 00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:50,570 And I think what you said is so true, maybe we should just learn 344 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,190 to resign everything back to God and say 345 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:56,560 I have to think of the story of Job, because that's where 346 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,120 people were saying to Job, this is a really godly man, 347 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,650 and He all the sudden looses his wife and his kids die and 348 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,920 he looses everything, he gets spoils and his 349 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:10,130 deffenders were saying: "what are you hiding, what are you doing?" 350 00:20:10,170 --> 00:20:13,040 and he's like searching everything:" I don't think I've 351 00:20:13,070 --> 00:20:16,440 done anything wrong and he finally comes up with the same 352 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,160 conclusion as Jackie, he said: "even if he slay me I know that 353 00:20:20,190 --> 00:20:23,840 You're God and I know You know the bigger picture and so there 354 00:20:23,870 --> 00:20:27,960 are times when you talk about family, my sister right now 355 00:20:27,990 --> 00:20:32,130 who I love, she's 27, her teeth fell out, she's 70 pounds now, 356 00:20:32,170 --> 00:20:35,470 she has A plus leukonomia and because of a drug abuse, 357 00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:38,490 and A plus leukonomia pulls the marrow out of your bone 358 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,430 and then they're going to do bone marrow transplant, 359 00:20:41,470 --> 00:20:43,010 because she's a drug addict and not going to do it, so 360 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,150 I may say that her prognosis is really poor. 361 00:20:46,190 --> 00:20:50,210 And I said the same thing as I say: "you know Lord, 362 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,190 I know You're capable and I don't even understand 363 00:20:54,230 --> 00:20:58,080 why You don't just stand up and, stand up and not only heal 364 00:20:58,110 --> 00:21:01,930 my family, but then chain them to the wall so they can't do 365 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,160 anything. 366 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,230 Sometimes I think I better believe that I would trade than 367 00:21:09,270 --> 00:21:12,530 and that's a lot, all of my miracles were just one whisper 368 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,790 to each one of my family members and they would have some sort 369 00:21:15,820 --> 00:21:17,060 of assurance of believe in God. 370 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:22,320 As we talked about resigning Yourself to prayer, 371 00:21:22,350 --> 00:21:27,540 and to the fact that God does know more than we know 372 00:21:27,570 --> 00:21:29,110 and we can't always fully understand, 373 00:21:29,150 --> 00:21:34,690 2 verses, pieces of Scripture came to mind, 374 00:21:34,730 --> 00:21:40,170 and the first one is trust where it says in Proverbs 3:5 375 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,580 it says: "trust in the Lord in all your ways." 376 00:21:43,620 --> 00:21:47,770 And acknowledge Him and He'll make your path straight." 377 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:52,440 and it's the matter of letting going and just knowing 378 00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:56,700 that God does, like you said He knows the bigger picture. 379 00:21:56,740 --> 00:22:01,550 And the other one that I think of, is in the New Testament 380 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:06,320 Jesus had a man come up to Him and asking for something. 381 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:11,200 And Jesus said: "Do you believe?" "Do you believe in Me, do you 382 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:15,940 believe in God?" And the person said: "I believe." 383 00:22:15,980 --> 00:22:20,620 "Help the part of me that doesn't." That part of me 384 00:22:20,660 --> 00:22:25,730 that's week. And what that shout out to me is that a lot of times 385 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,350 we don't even know how to pray. We don't know what to say 386 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:30,150 and we're not sure if God's going to answer. 387 00:22:30,190 --> 00:22:35,010 But we can also claim the fact that God knows our inmost being, 388 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,620 He knows our hearts and our desires and our fears and our 389 00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:45,140 hurts and our pains, and we have to trust that He is going to make 390 00:22:45,170 --> 00:22:48,860 the best decision for us. 391 00:22:48,900 --> 00:22:52,660 For us and He has given ous free will. 392 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:58,570 So I may want my sister to trust God and turn to God, 393 00:22:58,610 --> 00:23:02,210 but she is angry of God, she won't even allow Him to speak 394 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,850 with her and so you know, I've got to trust that God 395 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,570 is respectful of all of our free will, whereas I would 396 00:23:07,610 --> 00:23:10,950 just say: don't give him a choice, they just need 397 00:23:10,990 --> 00:23:14,710 You. And so we have to trust You that everybody has freewill 398 00:23:14,740 --> 00:23:17,350 and God is working with that entire picture. 399 00:23:17,390 --> 00:23:19,970 And He wants our hearts. He doesn't want just 400 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:20,620 our wows. 401 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,070 It's not an obedience thing, it's not a wow thing, 402 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,100 it's a heart thing. 403 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:26,410 He wants us to choose Him because we love Him 404 00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:31,520 and He loves us for who we are and what you were saying, 405 00:23:31,550 --> 00:23:35,540 it reminds me of Roman, I don't know which verse, but it says 406 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:39,500 that the Holly Spirit makes intercession for us with cronings 407 00:23:39,540 --> 00:23:42,560 And I just think how many times have I wanted to pray 408 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,180 but I didn't even know how. And that verse comes to me, 409 00:23:45,210 --> 00:23:48,110 because I know that the Holly Spirit comes in and He says 410 00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:51,020 this guy, he doesn't even know what he needs praying for, 411 00:23:51,050 --> 00:23:52,590 but he knows that there's something wrong. 412 00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:55,820 So I'm going to pray for him, and I think and maybe when 413 00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:59,380 I was or didn't even know about God,I think the Holly Spirit 414 00:23:59,420 --> 00:24:02,570 interceded and has looked in my life and saw me searching 415 00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:05,730 meaning and truth and different things and I wasn't finding it, 416 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,910 the Holly Spirit was still there just praying for me, 417 00:24:08,940 --> 00:24:12,060 making intercession for me when I didn't even know 418 00:24:12,090 --> 00:24:13,210 what was up. 419 00:24:13,250 --> 00:24:18,440 I don't know if you've had that experience,where you just 420 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:20,740 you're feeling so strongly about something, 421 00:24:20,770 --> 00:24:22,790 and you want to talk to God about it, 422 00:24:22,830 --> 00:24:27,680 just going: man, I need something I have no idea what that is. 423 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,640 But you can throw up, I've thrown up a prayer lke that before 424 00:24:31,670 --> 00:24:35,560 and said I just don't know what I need from you right now, 425 00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:36,680 but I need something. 426 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,670 Help me. And at the end of the day, I can look back at that day 427 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:43,200 and said: oh, look at what happened! 428 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Something happened that day that I really needed. 429 00:24:46,190 --> 00:24:47,840 I had no idea but God did. 430 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,740 We thrown out a lot of ideas a lot of things about prayer, 431 00:24:53,780 --> 00:24:56,710 so one thing I just want to say is that the relationship is the 432 00:24:56,740 --> 00:24:58,520 most important thing and trust God that He knows. 433 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,160 And pray for the people you love. And then the Holly Spirit 434 00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:03,390 will take up what we don't even know, 435 00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:07,190 and I would like to close, first of all I want to say thanks, 436 00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:10,320 thanks everybody for this for sharing your ideas 437 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:13,430 and your thoughts on prayer and will you close with 438 00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:14,120 a little song? 439 00:25:14,150 --> 00:25:14,700 Yeah. 440 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:17,370 Ok. Great! Jason, will you play? 441 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,960 What song are you going to sing? 442 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,450 It's called: "Seek Ye first" and there's 3 verses, 443 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,130 I think most of you know it. Ok? So 444 00:25:27,170 --> 00:25:39,430 Seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness 445 00:25:39,460 --> 00:25:45,720 And all these things shall be added unto you 446 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:51,900 Allelu-allelujah, 447 00:25:51,940 --> 00:26:04,230 man shall not live by bread alone,but by every Word, 448 00:26:04,260 --> 00:26:16,520 that procedes from the mouth of God, allelu-allelujah, 449 00:26:16,550 --> 00:26:41,370 allelujah-allelujah, allelujah, allelu-allelujah. 450 00:26:41,410 --> 00:26:53,950 Ask and it shall be given unto you. seek and ye shall find, 451 00:26:53,990 --> 00:27:06,500 knock and the door shall be open unto you,allelu-allelujah, 452 00:27:08,910 --> 00:27:12,880 Thanks. I believe that with all my heart is that seek and you'll 453 00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:16,850 find and there's no better ways than to seek God, or get on your 454 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,570 knees or walk around, drive around in your car and just ask. 455 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,840 I love you, please show me who I am, who you are 456 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,060 please help me in this situation and remember you can 457 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:29,100 ask God for help anywhere and if you don't know 458 00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:31,070 what to ask, the Holly Spirit is kicking in, 459 00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:35,930 and He'll ask. Pray anywhere. All of heaven rejoices when we 460 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,340 turn to God in prayer. Thanks for joining us 461 00:27:38,370 --> 00:27:40,950 on Teen Pathways and see you next time.